Well i think they should be more Ghetto areas in San Fierro its a huge city but there not really much gang areas. I know they can be gangs in rich areas im saying but to be honest ocean flats the only place that looks ghetto i tried Juniper Hills, Hashberry, Garcia and Calton Heights and they all just look like wealthy areas. Theres nothing wrong with them being like that im basically just saying they should be a few ghetto houses in those areas. I want to be able to rp with a gang somewhere different the Ocean flats cause its overuse and has over 3 factions in it.
For example:
The marked area could be replace as a Apartment complex instead of those houses. Some of the stuff you could replace it as are followed:
We've tried replacing the vanilla San Fierro buildings, and it just doesn't look right when it comes to creating a more "ghetto" environment, regardless of what we tried.
The thing is, that, the exterior can look pretty nice n' stuff, but the interior could look like absolute trash - don't let an area that has a certain appearance hinder your roleplay. Nonetheless, that circled area could easily be converted into an apartment complex interior as is, without many modifications made to the exterior.
Mapping or replacing buildings such as these with LS or LV ones is going to give a very, very, very different look and won't blend with the rest of the area. The only buildings that could blend are motels, but even so, that area is not really one for motels and such.
City of LA (somewhat warmer climate, influence of Hispanic/Latino culture as it is closer to Mexico) and San Francisco (eclectic mix of Victorian and modern architecture) are different when it comes to structures and layouts of the city in older parts so it would look bad if you see random LS ghetto buildings in San Fierro.
You need to look at San Fierro differently than you to Los Santos/LA - San Fierro and San Francisco are going to have a different style of criminal role-play. I predict, aise from Ocean Flats, most gangs are going to own/operate out of an apartment complex/high rise, almost like The Wire if you've seen that. There is a good story-line to use in regards to gentrification which would justify these low-income/poverty "sections" if you will, where the criminal roleplayers aren't going to own houses, but apartments in a building, etc. If it helps, try to imagine gang-banging in New York or Baltimore for example. It's totally different.
I really don't like the idea of ghettoizing San Fierro. SF and its surrounding towns are a completely different environment, with a different vibe, different ethnic populations, different culture, and should stay broadly the way they are right now, a more wealthy, middle-class city. Basically you're asking to import Los Santos into San Fierro. You're even asking to ghettoize otherwise wealthy areas, not a good idea. That's like asking to add Asian neighborhoods in Fort Carson because you want to roleplay triad gangs there. It just doesn't fit! If you want to roleplay Afro-American gangs, then in my opinion this isn't the server to do this. Bay Area RP isn't Los Santos RP.
I really don't like the idea of ghettoizing San Fierro. SF and its surrounding towns are a completely different environment, with a different vibe, different ethnic populations, different culture, and should stay broadly the way they are right now, a more wealthy, middle-class city. Basically you're asking to import Los Santos into San Fierro. You're even asking to ghettoize otherwise wealthy areas, not a good idea. That's like asking to add Asian neighborhoods in Fort Carson because you want to roleplay triad gangs there. It just doesn't fit! If you want to roleplay Afro-American gangs, then in my opinion this isn't the server to do this. Bay Area RP isn't Los Santos RP.
Well to keep it a buck with you most of the factions on the faction thread are rping as a ghetto gang this isn't for my personally pleasure. I'm not saying to add Los Santos buildings I was saying for example like you could take this as a example. During the test they added buldings from ls in ocean flats so they should atleast add some in other areas.
Well to keep it a buck with you most of the factions on the faction thread are rping as a ghetto gang this isn't for my personally pleasure. I'm not saying to add Los Santos buildings I was saying for example like you could take this as a example. During the test they added buldings from ls in ocean flats so they should atleast add some in other areas.
I've seen the Faction Forums briefly the other day and I have to say the amount of non-White/non-Asian gangs is disproportionately exaggerated. It seems that all of those are from players who just wish to migrate from Los Santos RP to this server, but without showing any regard for consistency before making a thread. San Fierro isn't LS and importing East LS into SF is a shame, we actually have this opportunity to have different roleplay, different types of factions, in a city that is rarely used as opposed to Los Santos. We need to see primarily triad gangs and legal factions.
If such gangs are to inevitably develop in San Fierro it should be done without erasing parts of town that are unique to the style of the city, and people need to ensure they adapt their factions to correspond with SF culture, such types of gangs are vastly different than the ones you find in LA.
do you really need custom mapping to rp a gang? If you want a ghetto, then turn a neighbourhood into a ghetto by populating the area with low-income roleplayers and gang members. Custom mapping in neighbourhoods to fit a faction's needs should be given once they've earned the mapping.
I've seen the Faction Forums briefly the other day and I have to say the amount of non-White/non-Asian gangs is disproportionately exaggerated. It seems that all of those are from players who just wish to migrate from Los Santos RP to this server, but without showing any regard for consistency before making a thread. San Fierro isn't LS and importing East LS into SF is a shame, we actually have this opportunity to have different roleplay, different types of factions, in a city that is rarely used as opposed to Los Santos. We need to see primarily triad gangs and legal factions.
If such gangs are to inevitably develop in San Fierro it should be done without erasing parts of town that are unique to the style of the city, and people need to ensure they adapt their factions to correspond with SF culture, such types of gangs are vastly different than the ones you find in LA.
So basically you want to see more triad gangs? Well thats your opinion i cant judge you on it but im just saying the map is based on LA right? La has some ghetto areas and some rich areas. You barely see ghetto areas...
do you really need custom mapping to rp a gang? If you want a ghetto, then turn a neighbourhood into a ghetto by populating the area with low-income roleplayers and gang members. Custom mapping in neighbourhoods to fit a faction's needs should be given once they've earned the mapping.
Not necessarily but really doesn't feel realistic to rp in a rich neighborhood. Its just gonna seem like suburban kids trying to be like city gangs
So basically you want to see more triad gangs? Well thats your opinion i cant judge you on it but im just saying the map is based on LA right? La has some ghetto areas and some rich areas. You barely see ghetto areas...
Bay Area RP takes place in San Fierro, GTA's San Francisco. Both in real-life and in-game it's like 50% White 35% Asian, and the types of gangs are relatively different than in LS. It's not just a personal opinion, based on where the server takes place in, it would be extremely appropriate to see a good amount of triad factions, mafias/crime families etc, as opposed to the many same black/Hispanic gangs you see in servers based in LS.
I'd rather have the gangs adapt to San Francisco than see San Francisco adapt to the gangs.
If such ghettos are a must, then the only place that could fit them without breaking SF's charm and beauty would be only Ocean Flats for bungalows and Doherty for apartment complexes, nowhere else.
I'd rather have the gangs adapt to San Francisco than see San Francisco adapt to the gangs.
If such ghettos are a must, then the only place that could fit them without breaking SF's charm and beauty would be only Ocean Flats for bungalows and Doherty for apartment complexes, nowhere else.
I get what you saying but if you check the faction posts you would see a bunch of gangs that are roleplaying in Ocean flats its going to be overflown makes no sense to try to rp in a place thats gonna be overpopulated. I just think added a few ghetto spots in a area is a good idea but i also get what you are saying.
I get what you saying but if you check the faction posts you would see a bunch of gangs that are roleplaying in Ocean flats its going to be overflown makes no sense to try to rp in a place thats gonna be overpopulated. I just think added a few ghetto spots in a area is a good idea but i also get what you are saying.
I get what you are saying, that's why I also mentioned Doherty as a nice, "run-down" place with lots of apartment complexes that can be used by some gangs.
I get what you are saying, that's why I also mentioned Doherty as a nice, "run-down" place with lots of apartment complexes that can be used by some gangs.
I will try it out when the server releases. Thanks
San Fierro isn't that big when you think about it. There isn't much variety within the city, and therefore we cannot add ghettos everywhere just to support the ghetto-resident roleplayers.
And; like I have previously stated, if you occupy an area and are continuously active in said area, we can edit the environment to support your faction/roleplay.
